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Debate over tougher gun laws in Ohio heats up

Debate over tougher gun laws in Ohio heats up
THE IDEA OF EXPANDING BACKGROUND CHECKS AND ESTABLISHING A RED FLAG LAW IN OHIO IS NOT EXACTLY A SPEEDING BULLE IT’S MORE LIKE A LONG, ARCING TRAJECTORY THROUGH THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY. THE GOVERNOR IS TRYING TO STRIKE A BALANCE. >> MAKE SURE THAT THE BILL THAT WE PRESENT TO THE LEGISLATURE PASSES CONSTITUTIONAL MUSTER THAT PROTECTS PEOPLE’S CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. BUT, THERE’S A REAL NEED OUT THERE EXPRESSED BY MANY FAMILIES TO GET SOME HELP JOHN: IN THE WAKE OF THE MASS SHOOTING IN DAYTON, THE PUSH FOR A RED FLAG LAW HAS INTENSIFIED. BUT, STATE REPRESENTATIVE BILL SEITZ IS AMONG THOSE WHO COMMEND THE GOVERNOR FOR ENSURING DUE PROCESS, PROVIDING NOTICE, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A HEARING AND A COURT-APPOINTED ATTORNEY IF NEEDED. BUT, SEITZ AGREES WITH JON VILLING, A FIREARMS EXPERT AT TARGET WORLD. THAT THERE ARE HOLES IN THE 17-POINT PLAN. >> THERE ISN’T ANYTHING SET IN STONE WITH HOW THE PROCESS IS GOING TO WORK. JOHN: VILLING IS OPPOSED TO EXPANDING THE BACKGROUND CHECK PROCESS, SAYING ESSENTIALLY PERSONAL TRANSACTIONS ARE JUST THAT, PERSONAL. HE NOT ONLY SEES RED FLAG AS A SLIPPERY SLOPE, BUT AS A POTENTIAL INVITATION TO MISCHIEF. >> YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY’S UPSET AT SOMETHING AND THEY SAY SOMETHING MAYBE OFF-COLOR ON FACEBOOK, WELL ONE OF THEIR FRIENDS ON FACEBOOK COULD SCREEN SHOT, SCREEN SHOOT THE CONVERSATION OR THE POSTING ON FACEBOOK AND THEN CALL THE POLICE WHERE THAT GUY WAS JUST LETTING OFF STEAM, HE’S NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT I JOHN: GUN RIGHTS GROUPS ARE ALIGNING AGAINST THE DEWINE PLAN BY EMAIL, TEXT AND VOICE MAIL. >> WELL, I’M HEARING FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE CONCERNED BUT THEY HAVEN’T REALLY SEEN OUR PROPOSAL. JOHN: REPUBLICANS WHO PRIZE THE SECOND AMENDMENT CONTROL THE OHIO GENERAL ASSEMBLY. GETTING ENOUGH OF THEM ON BOARD COULD BE A HEAVY LIFT. ON EXPANDED CHECKS, THEY WONDER ABOUT EXCEPTIONS. QUESTION HOW IT CAN BE ENFORCE MAY I -- THEY ARE WAR
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Debate over tougher gun laws in Ohio heats up
The debate over tougher gun laws in Ohio is starting to heat up.Gov. Mike DeWine spent part of Thursday pushing for the enactment of his 17-point gun safety plan.He expressed confidence about ultimate approval, but with no specific legislation set down on the desks of state lawmakers yet opponents are opening fire.The idea of expanding background checks and establishing a red flag law is not happening as fast as the velocity of a speeding bullet. It's more like a long, arcing trajectory through the General Assembly.The governor is trying to strike a balance."Make sure that the bill that we present to the legislature passes Constitutional muster that protects people's constitutional rights," assured DeWine. "But, there's a real need out there expressed by many families to get some help."In the wake of the mass shooting in Dayton, the push for a red flag law has intensified.State Rep. Bill Seitz is among those who "commend the governor for ensuring due process, providing notice, the opportunity for a hearing and a court-appointed attorney if needed."But, Seitz agreed with Jon Villing, a firearms expert at Target World, that there are holes in the plan."There isn't anything set in stone with how the process is going to work," noted Villing.He is opposed to expanding the background check process, saying essentially personal transactions are just that, personal.He not only sees red flag as a slippery slope, but as a potential invitation to mischief."You know, if somebody's upset at something and they say something maybe off-color on Facebook, well one of their friends on Facebook could screen shot, screen shoot the conversation or the posting on Facebook and then call the police where that guy was just letting off steam, he's not going to do anything about it," Villing said.Gun rights groups are aligning against the DeWine plan by email, text and voice mail."I'm hearing from people who are concerned but they haven't really seen our proposal," said DeWine Thursday.DeWine met with Cincinnati Mayor John Cranley, Dayton Mayor Nan Whaley and other mayors from around Ohio Thursday, asking for their support of what he has proposed which includes a stronger effort to keep guns out of the hands of convicted felons.Cranley joined Chief Eliot Isaac, 5/3 Bank shooting survivor Whitney Austin and other mayors and police chiefs at a media briefing in Columbus to urge state lawmakers to enact the reforms."We stand with the cops for background checks," stated Cranley."For red flag laws, for protection orders, for making common sense changes that will keep us safer."However, the effort could be a heavy lift particularly in the Ohio House, where there is plenty of skepticism about how certain elements would be enforced.The legislature is controlled by Republican conservatives who prize the Second Amendment and would be key to getting the DeWine plan through.The governor believes every element in his plan would help make Ohio families safer than they are right now.

The debate over tougher gun laws in Ohio is starting to heat up.

Gov. Mike DeWine spent part of Thursday pushing for the enactment of his 17-point gun safety plan.

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He expressed confidence about ultimate approval, but with no specific legislation set down on the desks of state lawmakers yet opponents are opening fire.

The idea of expanding background checks and establishing a red flag law is not happening as fast as the velocity of a speeding bullet. It's more like a long, arcing trajectory through the General Assembly.

The governor is trying to strike a balance.

"Make sure that the bill that we present to the legislature passes Constitutional muster that protects people's constitutional rights," assured DeWine. "But, there's a real need out there expressed by many families to get some help."

In the wake of the mass shooting in Dayton, the push for a red flag law has intensified.

State Rep. Bill Seitz is among those who "commend the governor for ensuring due process, providing notice, the opportunity for a hearing and a court-appointed attorney if needed."

But, Seitz agreed with Jon Villing, a firearms expert at Target World, that there are holes in the plan.

"There isn't anything set in stone with how the process is going to work," noted Villing.

He is opposed to expanding the background check process, saying essentially personal transactions are just that, personal.

He not only sees red flag as a slippery slope, but as a potential invitation to mischief.

"You know, if somebody's upset at something and they say something maybe off-color on Facebook, well one of their friends on Facebook could screen shot, screen shoot the conversation or the posting on Facebook and then call the police where that guy was just letting off steam, he's not going to do anything about it," Villing said.

Gun rights groups are aligning against the DeWine plan by email, text and voice mail.

"I'm hearing from people who are concerned but they haven't really seen our proposal," said DeWine Thursday.

DeWine met with Cincinnati Mayor John Cranley, Dayton Mayor Nan Whaley and other mayors from around Ohio Thursday, asking for their support of what he has proposed which includes a stronger effort to keep guns out of the hands of convicted felons.

Cranley joined Chief Eliot Isaac, 5/3 Bank shooting survivor Whitney Austin and other mayors and police chiefs at a media briefing in Columbus to urge state lawmakers to enact the reforms.

"We stand with the cops for background checks," stated Cranley.

"For red flag laws, for protection orders, for making common sense changes that will keep us safer."

However, the effort could be a heavy lift particularly in the Ohio House, where there is plenty of skepticism about how certain elements would be enforced.

The legislature is controlled by Republican conservatives who prize the Second Amendment and would be key to getting the DeWine plan through.

The governor believes every element in his plan would help make Ohio families safer than they are right now.